Episode Summary: In this episode, Nate and Shelby unpack a young competitor’s apologetics speech from the conservative homeschool speech league featured in “Shiny Happy People.” The speaker argues that God must punish every sin to be just. Join us as we challenge this traditional view and discuss its implications for the future of faith and justice.

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