Why is Mister Rogers’ message to children better than Sunday school? How did Dave Ramsey make the accusation of money a christian value? How can Attachment Theory shine a light on shame-filled messages we often hear in the church? Nate sits down with his friends Danielle and Krispin Mayfield to discuss all of this and more. You can also check out Krispin’s podcast Attached to the Invisible and their joint podcast The Prophetic Imagination Station.

D.L. Mayfield is the author of Assimilate or Go Home: Notes from a Failed Missionary on Rediscovering Faith, The Myth of the American Dream: Reflections on Affluence, Autonomy, Safety, and Power, and Unruly Saint: Dorothy Day’s Radical Vision and its Challenge for Our Times. Krispin Mayfield is the author of Attached to God: A Practical Guide to Deeper Spiritual Experience.